Milliardo
WhistlePig 15 Year Estate Oak Rye
Rye — (bottled in) Vermont, Canada
Reviewed
December 15, 2021 (edited December 17, 2021)
It’s December 15, and I’m going to try a new rye whiskey every day this month. And while my rye game is not as weak as my Scotch game was this time last year, I’m always up for suggestions on good rye whiskies. And now that I have goals (it’s good to have goals), there are some key players I could use your help finding. Send me your most intense contender.
Goals (abridged):
5 ryes. 4.5 stars. Readily available. (3/5, WT101, Whistlepig 10, Whistlepig 12)
I want to recognize the difference between any bourbon and any rye. First try.
One of these must be an Empire Rye.
I want a raunchy rye. I want the one that tastes like the moment you realize that your new career may require the occasional Eigen decomposition. Pretty sure I made a promise to Gandalf that I’d never do one of those again.
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And now the moment I’ve all been waiting for: this final little piggy in my piglet pack.
But first, a word from my sponsor: basic math.
This little piggy pack cost me $20. It had 3 50mL bottles: this 15 year, the 12, and the 10. If I were to buy the full bottle, the retail in my area for tonight’s whiskey alone is $389.
750mL = 50mL x 15
$20 x 15 = $300
If I were able to buy 15 of these piglet packs, I would get the equivalent of the full 750 mL bottle, save $89, and get a “free” full bottle equivalent of the 10 and the 12. Not to mention enough mini Whistlepig bottles to make an adorable whiskey-themed checkers game… which… typing that just now made me realize I have to make someday. Guys… this little piggy pack (up to scale) would save you over $250 compared to buying the bottles individually. That… doesn’t make sense. And all this math and board game planning has made me thirsty.
Nose has pears, apple, sugar, flowers. Possibly the $10 bouquet this time. I think there’s some baby’s breath in there. Seriously though: this smells phenomenal.
Body is more of the pear and apple. I can see citrus. It’s juicy. They did these fruity notes to perfection. There’s also chocolate, but the fruity notes are center stage.
Finish brings a mild black pepper, but it’s still sweeter than it is spicy. There’s also a mild dust. The flavors on the body don’t go anywhere on this finish, and they build up and become the dominant notes as you go back for more. I could also see watermelon here.
This is brilliant. Is it worth $389? I’m honestly not sure. I’ve made worse decisions. I don’t think so, but I think I’d pay $200 without blinking. At $389, I’m not going to count this as a permanent shelf member. Nonetheless, so far it’s the best new whiskey I’ve tried this December. Irrespective of your feelings on the full bottle’s price, the value you get from this piglet pack is insane. I cannot recommend it highly enough. It’s a $20 experience you deserve. Treat yourself.
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@ContemplativeFox this makes so much sense. And kinda breaks my heart a bit. I really wanted to add these people to my short list of distilleries that have both talent and swagger. You can’t have swagger if you act like that
@Milliardo Whistlepig operates differently than most spirit producers. It identifies about the highest price the market will bear then charges a bit below that, effectively capturing all of the secondary market profits. Partially, this probably has to do with their late entry to the market. Buffalo Trace, for example, was charging fair prices and then the secondary prices shot through the roof. They can't charge the full secondary prices themselves though because a lot of people who buy their products won't be willing to pay them. The result is that the big number prices you see will be driven down if MSRP approaches secondary prices because demand will shrink. BT clearly thinks it's not worth hurting the prestige of their brand by letting secondary prices fall (or they don't want customers to think they're greedy or something). Whistlepig has effectively said that they don't care about their products being sold for as much as possible, so their prices are (shockingly) actually lower than they would be on secondary if whistlepig were to set MSRP lower. Anyway, that's my overly-long-winded analysis
@ctbeck11 I’ve heard other people say that too. 18 costs $500 in my area, and this is from the people who charge $60 for Weller 12 still (if you’re lucky enough to get there at the right time.) I asked them point blank about this, and allegedly they do their standard markup and no more so idk. NW Indiana just ain’t the place to be a Whistlepig fan…
Agreed. While WhistlePig as a whole is way overpriced, these piglets are surprisingly reasonable, and definitely a step above the 10 and 12 Year bottles. $389 seems high though. That’s closer to the price for the 18 Year. My store has the 15 Year for $240, which is about what I’m seeing it listed at online. I think it’s still overpriced for what you get, but it’s fairly close to your $200 price point.