This one really doesn't agree with me at all. The nose is sour and leathery, and the palate is leathery, dusty, and oily. There's a sweetness beneath the salty, malty leather, but even with ice I find that it's such a bittered taste I can't really get to any of the elements I might enjoy. Definitely a pass for me. EDIT: Later tastes have adjusted my palette to appreciate these flavors more, although I still wouldn't say I love them, by any means.