Hmm not my night I think. 3 whiskies in and nothing great tried so far including this one. I think my palate has been ruined by all the great drams I've had recently or I'm on an off night. To be fair these aren't highly rated drams so maybe a mixture of both. This is on par with the Penderyns maybe a step up. Solid (just) 3 I'll give it to respect my irish roots.