Wow - this is going to be a rough round of whisky I think for our group. This nose is just missing...vacant. I get the oak, some vanilla, distant light fruit. The palate bring some apples, butter, with a medium mouth coat, but only the alcohol remains. No finish to speak of really, other than some bitterness. As the Stormtroopers say, "Nothing to see here! Move along!!". Welp, let's slap a 2.25 on it. Thanks for getting this one for us @PBMichiganWolverine. The theme should bring more disappointment. Let's say "Never There" by Cake.